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It's really amazing. Anyone still remembers Dojo ? 2 years ago or so they stated that they start to mass produce Dojo and it was supposed to be a top 5 supercomputer in the world by the end of 2024...

https://thedriven.io/2023/06/22/tesla-to-start-building-its-...





The Dojo team left tesla to do their own ASIC. https://www.theverge.com/news/756706/tesla-dojo-team-shut-do...

Yeah, that was already almost 1 year after they were supposedly planning to have the top 5 compute ...

The reality is they announced that as a pipe dream. Just like the FSD, Robotaxi, Optimus and 10 other projects that will never work - or more precisely, they will work but >10 years from now, and it won't be from Tesla but from a competitor.


I'm sure there is a Polymarket for you to bet against FSD that I use to drive 99% of the time.

You understand what the word “Full” means, right? It doesn’t mean 99%.

Don’t know what to call it but coast to coast seems close enough to full for me.

https://x.com/davidmoss/status/2006255297212358686



One would be crazy to bet on that on Polymarket. They had a bet for Tesla Robotaxi rollout before end of 2025 and it resolved to YES. So it must be like your FSD - Tesla is apparently already operating a general public access autonomus Robotaxi, maybe even 50% of the US population like the CEO said.

so you were wrong and lost or what? they are operating a general public access autonomous robotaxi in sf, dunno what you are on about

In SF ? That would be illegal, as Tesla don't even have the permit to do that:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto...

They only can test with a driver for now. Can you take a ride in this Robotaxi and film it, so we can all see ?

I'm always very curious about why people argue some obvious lies like that about Tesla. Invested ? Paid shills ? Just Musk distortion field ?


if the driver doesn't do anything what then? is it driving itself or not?

as someone that gets driven around by my car whenever it is on the road, i hate that people like you act like it doesn't exist.


Nobody disputes that the car can drive itself 99% of the time. It can and it's a great system (well, opinions diverge, I mostly agree). But it's very far from a Robotaxi - for any reasonable person, Robotaxi means unsupervised rides, which Tesla is not currently doing at all. And they argue pretty strongly in court that any talk about unsupervised is just 'corporate puffery'.

This is similar to why one needs to keep an eye on todlers. 99% they are fine, but that 1% of time they will do something very dangerous.


I don't personally want to get into that kind of betting, but in theory...

If I had bet that purchasable Teslas wouldn't have level 3 or level 4 driving by 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, and 2025 I would have won every single one of those bets.

FSD is improving, but they finally put "supervised" in the name for a reason. It's a feature-packed level 2. That doesn't meet the bar.


3, no?

Level 3 lets you ignore the road until the car beeps at you, at which point you have a few seconds to get ready to take over.

FSD is level 2. You have to be constantly on the lookout.


?? Tesla have never manufactured a single car. They simply don’t exist. Just like those rockets that don’t exist. It’s all just CGI.

Sure you do.

Add HLS to the list.

I suspect the departure was mutual... The team didn't seem on track to deliver anything workable.



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