so you were wrong and lost or what? they are operating a general public access autonomous robotaxi in sf, dunno what you are on about

In SF ? That would be illegal, as Tesla don't even have the permit to do that:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto...

They only can test with a driver for now. Can you take a ride in this Robotaxi and film it, so we can all see ?

I'm always very curious about why people argue some obvious lies like that about Tesla. Invested ? Paid shills ? Just Musk distortion field ?

if the driver doesn't do anything what then? is it driving itself or not?

as someone that gets driven around by my car whenever it is on the road, i hate that people like you act like it doesn't exist.

Nobody disputes that the car can drive itself 99% of the time. It can and it's a great system (well, opinions diverge, I mostly agree). But it's very far from a Robotaxi - for any reasonable person, Robotaxi means unsupervised rides, which Tesla is not currently doing at all. And they argue pretty strongly in court that any talk about unsupervised is just 'corporate puffery'.

This is similar to why one needs to keep an eye on todlers. 99% they are fine, but that 1% of time they will do something very dangerous.