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What failed in the technology?

Because batteries are the only part you can criticize, take a look at the sodium batteries made by CATL:

https://cnevpost.com/2025/12/29/catl-expects-sodium-batterie...

https://carnewschina.com/2025/12/28/catl-confirms-2026-large...

It's a real breakthrough in battery tech. With gasoline you simply can't have this.


I don't want to pile on you as I see you've already taken a hit - so I'll leave the voting out of this. But consider how many people you knew in the 80s/90s with a Laser Disc player. It was very niche. You likely had one techy nerd friend, or you had a friend that had a dad that was always buying "the next big thing". I think I knew ONE GUY that bought a laser disc player. Contrast that with just Tesla (not even EVs). You likely know 4 or 5 friends or family that own one. The model Y was the best selling vehicle last year. Whether that trend lasts into the 2050s, none of us can know. But calling it a failure? I just don't see it.

Electric cars were a failure, their market share tanked back in the 1910s. So a vague "electric cars failed in the market" is technically true. However, that past failure is quite distinct from the current electric car thing.

We will see. I drove them for 9 years. I , sadly , saw the reality

I will never go back to a ICE car after 30k km of driving an EV

The technology is fine, it's the leadership. Plenty of other countries are rolling out EVs fine, we (the US) just can't seem to build out the charging infrastructure or standardize on a charging port.

(And don't forget that Laserdisk was quite successful for what it tried to do, and that when you buy physical videos today, they're in optical disk format.)


The U.S. already standardized on a charging port: Tesla's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Charging_Standa...

There is no legal mandate for NACS.

Cars are still sold with J1772/CCS ports, there are still CCS chargers being deployed, there are still J1772 home chargers being sold, almost every level 2 charger is J1772, and my NACS EV came with two dongles.

(FWIW, the new Leaf has a NACS port that's only used for level 3 charging, and separate J1772 port for level 1/2 charging.)

If there was a legal mandate for a changeover, it would be a very different story.

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We pretty much need to force NACS: Force all public chargers (level 2 and 3) to be NACS, force all cars sold to be NACS, and make it super-easy for people with older cars to get dongles.


AFAIK every major car manufacturer has announced they're switching to NACS for the American market (or has already switched). I think you're underselling how standard it is. And it's already easy to get dongles for old cars! You can get them on Amazon with two day shipping.

The manufacturers all want you to use their dongle. It's not CYA, either. A lot of the Amazon ones aren't safe.

> I think you're underselling how standard it is.

It's about availability:

There's still way more CCS / J1772 than NACS when I use public chargers, or when I look to purchase home chargers. The dealer that I bought my Ioniq 9 had a CCS charger, and the other dealer that I took it to for service had a CCS charger. When I park it near work, it's a J1772. (I wouldn't have bought the Ionic 9 if it was CCS/J1772.)

Searching Google for "What percentage of EVs for sale in the US are NACS" says:

> Transition Period for New Sales: While nearly all major automakers have committed to the NACS standard, many 2025 model year vehicles are still a mix of CCS ports with available NACS adapters, or new models coming with a native NACS port.

> 2026 Model Year: Virtually all new models from every major automaker are expected to come standard with the NACS port

Searching Google for "What percentage of EV chargers in the US are NACS" says:

> As of late 2025, NACS (Tesla's standard, now SAE J3400) dominates in available ports, especially DC fast charging, due to Tesla's massive Supercharger network (over 57% of ports) and rapid adoption by other automakers, with NACS already representing a significant portion of all installed ports, though CCS1 still sees new deployments, creating a dynamic transition where NACS is the majority in Tesla vehicles and rapidly growing across the infrastructure.

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What distorts the issue is that so many EVs are Teslas, and that so many chargers are Supercharger. Once you exclude Tesla / Supercharger from the comparison, there's still too much CCS/J1772.


The fact that virtually all new models in 2026 will have NACS tells you we don't need to regulate in 2026 that all new cars must be built with NACS. That's what's happening anyway.

Once you exclude Supercharger

Why would you exclude Superchargers from the comparison of American charging networks? Most V3/V4 Superchargers support charging non-Tesla NACS cars (or non-NACS cars with a dongle), and they're much more reliable than the non-Tesla chargers e.g. EVGo. The reason NACS took off is because the Supercharger network is so good, even for non-Tesla cars.


Wouldn't be if we could buy byd cars in the US

Electric car sales keep growing and even their biggest critics agree they are better to drive than ICE cars.



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