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paulgb · on Sept 16, 2023

> one begins to wonder whether it's orchestrated

It's not, lol. I've been on this site 16 years (user #590), if I'm astroturfing at least you have to give me credit for my long game :).

I immigrated to the US, I know the pain of dealing with Kafkaesque institutions.

But I've also seen an ambulance with its sirens on delayed by several minutes because of a double-parked minivan. At some point, we need to acknowledge that owning a motor vehicle is not a blank check for putting other people in danger.

mathisfun123 · on Sept 16, 2023

> But I've also seen an ambulance with its sirens on delayed by several minutes because of a double-parked minivan.

So you're #3 then; there's not a single doubt in my mind that this is exceptional and the converse (people being booted unjustly/indiscriminately) is the norm.

dang · on Sept 17, 2023

Could you please not cross into personal attack and please not post in the flamewar style to HN? We're trying for something different here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mathisfun123 · on Sept 17, 2023

Do tell how pointing out that anecdata doesn't constitute a good faith engagement should be considered "personal attack" or "flamewar".

dang · on Sept 17, 2023

Accusing another commenter of bad faith is a personal attack, and the aggressive way you've been arguing is the flamewar style.

mathisfun123 · on Sept 17, 2023

I'm sorry so the choices I'm presented with are

1. Acknowledge "I once saw an..." as legitimate discourse.

2. Point out that bad faith and then be censured.

That's what you're going for "here"?

dang · on Sept 17, 2023

The HN guidelines ask commenters to assume good faith. This is for several reasons. One is that "bad faith" has to do with the other person's intention, which is not something one really has access to; as a result, internet commenters are far too quick to jump to this explanation. Another reason is the effect such accusations have on discussion quality, which is to make it shallower, more predictable and nastier. It's simply not curious conversation.

Also from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: "Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine." Your comments are noticeably breaking that guideline by (as I mentioned above) arguing so aggressively. Can you please take the intended spirit of this site, as expressed in the guidelines, more to heart? We'd appreciate it, and you'll find yourself getting flagged (by users) and moderated (by mods) much less.