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A major difference is that it’s coming straight from the company. If you get bad advice on a forum, well, the forum just facilitated that interaction, your real beef is with the jackass you talked to. With ChatGPT, the jackass is owned and operated by the company itself.

A large number of extremely smart people are being paid ungodly amounts of money to enhance the addictiveness of AI output. I'm not optimistic about them failing.

Oh I am. In the end they are just doing what somebody else much more stupid than them is telling them to do. That limits how much damage they can do.

Not really? It’s incredibly easy to run an A/B test targeting hundreds of thousands of users to test hypothesis and refine your eventual feature. All these eventually add up. And honestly, the upper management is pretty smart too.

We never bet against extremely smart people on HN. Extremely smart people not actively shaping the world would be a true travesty to revolt against, not simply post angry comment-content into the void.

Including advertising in a paid product should be punishable by public flogging.

Why? It's a new tier that's lower-cost than the current paid version.

Don't care. It creeps upward. And even if it doesn't, it's terrible.

What ought to be the punishment for falling for the line that paying for something means no ads?

Who says we're falling for it? I expect it, as in I believe that's how it should be. I know that offerings can change and that there are paid services that include ads. I know what I'm getting if I sign up for a paid plan with ads. I also think anyone who offers such a thing should be publicly flogged.

Locks raise the cost of bad behavior, which makes it less likely. They can still be quite meaningful to someone who breaks those promises, if that person doesn't have the tools or time to defeat the lock, or is just plain lazy.

I live in a pretty low-crime area. From time to time, residents complain about things being stolen from their cars. Every single time that I've seen, the cars have been unlocked. A thief certainly could smash a window to steal from a locked car, but the thieves around here seem to be opportunistic and won't go that far.


And a larger lock pick tool does pretty much zero in the case you listed as that is not opportunistic. Those are pretty much the open up and steal when they see an unlocked car kind of people.

It does nothing for the type of criminals that work in groups and steal tires of 50 cars at once, or whatever soup de jour of automobile parts they want at that moment.


My point is, locks do more than just keep honest people honest, and they are meaningful to some people who are up to no good.

I wasn't addressing picks at all. My opinion there is that it's the lock maker and lock owner's responsibility to resist picking, and the rest of us have no obligation to keep it more difficult by not making tools.


Definition 7 from the Jargon File:

"One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations."


I went to hacker events where someone would sell lock-picking tools and practice locks like it's the most natural thing in the world.

Mr. judge I’m not a black hat hacker. I’m a person, one of such nature who enjoys creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

Pick a fight with a room full of pedants snicker snicker.


Example: Kavanaugh stops. Racial profiling is now legal thanks to our Supreme Court.

Internal bleeding? Where do you get this nonsense? I keep seeing completely imaginary "facts" parroted about this case and I really want to know where they come from.


It’s kinda funny that conservatives don’t have the ability to think for themselves and rather just repeat what others tell them.

Internal bleeding = a bruise


So you agree he was struck by the vehicle?

So you think there no other way in the world that ice agent would have a bruise? Is there any proof the bruise was from this incident? Did he have any bruises before from any other ice activity?

They are grabbing people day in and day out.

Again, think.

This was the same incident where the administration said they guy was fighting for his life after being struck by the car however:

“Eventually, the agent who shot the motorist approaches the vehicle. Seconds later, he turns back around and tells his colleagues to call 911. Agents blocked several bystanders who attempt to provide medical care, including one who identifies himself as a physician. At the same time, several agents, including the agent who opened fire, get in their vehicles and drive off, apparently altering the active crime scene.”

Think for yourself.


Has this been independently confirmed? I trust nothing these people say. Especially when the video shows nothing happening.

'officials say' anything now-a-days... What a trustworthy time to be alive. /s

No. Wheels were turned away from the gestapo, gestapo was not hurt, gestapo is lying about injuries.


Can you elaborate on some of Yarvin's points you think are good?


Honest-to-God truthfully, reading Moldbug is what made me realize the speciousness of pure rightism and ushered my journey from a rightist-axiomatic "Libertarian" / ancap to a centrist-qualitative libertarian-without-labels that sees left and right thinking as both necessary parts of a complete whole. But YMMV, apparently!

In general I think whenever you find a "red pill", you also end up confronted with a whole slew of new easy answers. Whether you end up buying into them or not really comes down to who you are as a person.


I will never ever understand the construct of right / left / red / blue / lib / conservative without having to take a really dumb view of the world and its human inhabitants.

The problem is that left/right are highly appealing because they claim to have the world figured out. The strongest manifestation being the authoritarians (of either ilk) that think they just need to implement their chosen top-down policies and every problem will end up being solved by construction.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

Getting a worker to understand that their work negatively affects innocent people is a big uphill battle.


That's not my experience from the time I worked for Google. The popular sentiment was actually "We now work for a company that dropped 'don't be evil' and that sucks". See Manu Cornet comics - they are a pretty good reflection of the sentiment I'm talking about, a random example https://goomics.net/387

And it's not like everyone just complained for moral posturing and then continued to wipe the tears of disgust with wads of cash. Many people who left also mentioned the ethics part as why they left.


Due to background, I know a lot of people who work at google, and while many of them will give lipservice to ethical concerns, none of them have made any changes at all because, and this is an exact quote, "the money is too good."

Just go watch the one that starts with a car driving past her car.

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