Fallujah and Mosul (post occupation, but they provided artillery and air support, so...)

Raze means to completely destroy. Please cite a source that they were completely destroyed.

> The most popular tool in HashiCorp's ecosystem that wasn't written by them was written by a consulting firm who hated HashiCorp's UX

Which tool is that?

On a related note, Vault has a really excellent API. A joy.

> Vault has a really excellent API. A joy.

Strongly disagree: suppose we have secrets mounted at my/secrets, and we want to read a secret top/secret, which is represented as my/secrets/top/secret path in vault. However, the only way to access it via API is to read _all_ mount points, and match them with the path to split path to mount point and secret. vault cli itself follows the same logic: https://github.com/hashicorp/vault/blob/main/command/kv_help...

We’re using different Vaults it seems. HashiCorp’s tech is a mess of over engineering, poor UX, and insufficient documentation.

>HashiCorp’s tech is a mess of over engineering, poor UX, and insufficient documentation.

Second that. Very steep learning curve for some use cases that could be accomplished in a much easier way. Another kubernetes in disguise.

k8s in disguise? Vault? Have you used either of these tools?

They're talking about Nomad here, with the "tech" in the GP comment widening the discussion, I assume.

I'm assuming this is Terragrunt, which itself perpetuates all kinds of horrific practices which are absolutely unnecessary if you apply basic software engineering principles to infrastructure as code/config.

Terragrunt is an antipattern. Made the mistake once with a very poorly structured project I inherited, never again.

Terragrunt is not an anti-pattern, but it is a tool that is easier to get wrong than Terraform and so people create great messes with it.

Used right it's the only way to remain sane on any non-trivial set of infra where you don't end up hand-rolling a half-baked version of Terragrunt.

Managing 10^5 servers right now with Terragrunt. Can confirm, it's the only way to stay sane.

Getting to this point was a learning process though. Probably six solid years of investment now.

From experience terragrunt + atlantis has been much better experience than hashicorp's own terraform enterprise service.

not using terraform enterprise.

"Code generation" is pure evil.

I second that Terraform needs to work at least on dynamically specifying providerblocks. This is where people usually resort to terragrunt.

Workspaces and state layering are in my experience hard on the novices and unfortunately they turn to terragrunt.

Not disagreeing, but you have to create a shit ton of scaffolding to work around TF's lack of useful functionality and painful UX. Terragrunt exists because somebody had to do the same, and then kept adding on "smart" features making it even more overcomplicated.

Could you express more? There's gotta be a good use case for Terragrunt; they have been useful so far for me

Do you know of any articles or other writeups about this?

Where does it say Terragrunt is part of Hashicorp?

> The most popular tool in HashiCorp's ecosystem that wasn't written by them was written by a consulting firm who hated HashiCorp's UX

This is the initial comment about Terragrunt, which doesn't say that

Indeed: it says the exact opposite.

Good, we both agree that no one in this thread suggested terragrunt is developed by hashicorp?

Vault is excellent.

I really don't understand why people are pretending the licensing makes any difference here.

Try using character names from Overwatch

And then people will complain about all the AirBnB rentals everywhere...

The Russian speaking news sphere has been super mad about Kosovo for years, this isn't a new thing invented for the invasion.

The conflict in Kosovo is literally what restarted active US-Russian Cold War, and very nearly direct armed conflict.

I mean, they have a HSR system and we have a Tutor Perini Yacht Slush Fund.

New York has an astonishing number of police per capita compared to the west coast. That seems like the biggest, most obvious structural difference.

Yeah you are gonna need to cite your sources on way more cops = increased public safety. Further you are going to need to prove that the astronomical amount of money spent on police departments wouldn't better reduce crime if spent on caring directly for the needy.

At the end of the day the only real correlation between the amount of homeless people in a place I have noticed in my visits to different cities in the US is how easy it is to survive outside without a home. NYC gets incredibly, brutally cold in the winter. Many homeless probably either die (not directly from cold most of time, but the hardship makes other problems way worse) or are forced to move south. Yes there are plenty of homeless in NYC obviously but it must be a brutally hard life trying to get through the really cold nights of the NYC winter (whether thats trying to find a shelter or just holing up on a grate spewing out steam somewhere).

San Francisco you can probably survive in pants and a tshirt for most of the year and be ok.

The worst thing about this process is that no one can even figure out how to stop it. The joy of ballot measures.

Certainly a less edgy name for a podcast than "cumtown".

Not familiar with that one. Based on the name alone I'm not sure I'd be all that interested