Wow, sorry, but given how incredibly insecure all the "claw" agent type things are right now, does this really sound wise at all?
It sees everything you do, really? What's it gonna do with that data? You don't know.
Put all your customer data in there, all your customer relationships. It's fine, it couldn't leak all that information, it couldn't screw up any sensitive business details I'm sure. This is gonna go great.
Sorry AFK everybody I'm gonna go get myself a VibeMBA.
Anyway, good luck, I'm really looking forward to the user stories in a few weeks! I'm sure this won't go badly at all.
> DenchClaw finds your Chrome Profile and copies it fully into its own, so you won’t have to log in into all your websites again. DenchClaw sees what you see, does what you do. It’s an everything app, that sits locally on your mac.
Wow that sounds great. Hey don't worry these things never blackmail anyone. Let it know if you're gonna turn it off, I bet it'll make some REAL interesting choices based on your browsing history
I'm always confused by this kind of comment about AI accessing people's chrome history because it seems to imply that the kind of person who uses this tool is both too stupid to know what private browsing is and also is into absolutely heinous stuff.
I feel like the average person is going to be like "oh no it'd be terrible if everyone found out I really like the 'big boobs' category on pornhub"
Oh, you have nothing to hide? Kindly paste all your payment and login credentials that your browser stores. Later we'll need to see all your DMs on Facebook, LinkedIn, Slack, Discord, etc.
Finally we'll want to know about disputes you've had with intimate partners, employers and other service providers, especially powerful ones like healthcare, insurance and financial organisations.
We should also have full published salary and benefits (etc) details right now, whatever their contract says about disclosing those, and 24x7 streamed video of their entire life with no censoring, including toilet breaks and sex and bars and parties.
And, along with all the credentials as you suggest, including private parts of PGP keys etc, accurate impressions/clones of any and all physical security/privacy devices they use such as keys to house and car and safe and gun safe and relatives' crypt, etc, etc...
Privacy and security and whatever this could trample all over are not the same thing.
You may be legally entirely above board (though Cardinal Richelieu wouldn't let that get in the way) but you still might not want your S&M kink to be known or to be outed to conservative friends and family or have your bank account details spread around or have a $$$$$ bill run up in your AWS or LLM logins...
I mean isn't what happened to Google leading people to use generative ai tools instead of searching that web searches started filling with generative AI garbage, both in terms of web content as in terms of Google itself generating it
Also a note since there are a number of comments on here about this being a rival for Systemd: Shepherd precedes Systemd by quite a bit! Shepherd was previously known as "dmd", the "daemon for managing daemons", which was made in 2003! So in that sense, if anything was imitating anything (and not claiming anything was), it would be the reverse :)
It may be possible to get Shepherd to work with Hoot eventually! I'm not sure what on earth it would mean though. What daemons would you manage in the browser? But it's indeed a fun idea!
If you could configure a fleet of machines from a browser window, over the network; that would be pretty cool. No clue how that would work in practice here though.
Since everything would be speaking OCapN you could use the browser interface as a convenient command center. This idea is becoming quite appealing to me actually... would be cool to have a little dashboard showing the health of my servers and be able to restart a failed service if I needed to.
That's almost every article on HN, though. Don't use inheritance, don't use C, use Kubernetes, don't use Kubernetes, etc etc.
I suspect the thing that's bothering people in the comments here isn't as much that the author is making an argument but that the author is making an argument on cultural grounds?
People are fed up with the constant identity-politics culture-war bait. Mainstream news is already full of that stuff. HN in general is far more interested in the technical articles of the author.
The difference being that the culture isn't awash in people demanding adherence to Kant. It seems that every time someone voices an objection to the tiresome identity-politics that is so prevalent today, others will ensure the conversation devolves into a discussion of slippery definitions and pedantic dismissals of the complainant's understanding.
The truth is, _many_ people are fed up with the dominant leftist dogma that permeates almost every area of culture, government, and the economy today. We can argue until the sun goes down about the nature and specifics of what that entails, but people are reacting to _something_; it does exist, irrespective of any failure to describe it well.
It's not leftist dogma. Leftists aren't capitalists, friend. Hard to argue the government and economy are post capitalist.
And most leftists I know absolutely hate performative progressivism. Dems are widely mocked in leftist circles for doing stunts but not doing anything to help. Like Pelosi wearing Kente cloth while doing nothing to aid African people.
So please, you might actually have people who agree with you in the leftist camp, stop bundling us with the Dems.
That conflation of dems/leftists is central to one side of the "identity-politics culture-war bait". They aren't going to stop doing it.
However, when folks do it, you know that they are just un-self-critically engaging in something that they putatively dislike in other folks.
Not to get to annoying on the topic, but I do find it fun to unpack.
Ironically, the hated "I know this, so everyone should change their behaviour" position is central to the idea that "we [HN] are fed up with the constant identity-politics culture-war bait."
That claim is about who "we" are, and it's stated with a great deal of certainty, even if there is a bit of cowardly rhetorical hedging.
And that claim is supposedly consistent because the claimant has over-determined the "we":
so that claimant isn't making a universal statement, just a statement of "I" and the "We" to which that "I" belongs.
Which seems like a pretty normal move- notice the concern with "_many_ people" and the demand that we don't look too far into what that population might actually mean.
I've been on HN for a decade, have some karma, and no, I am not part of that "we" apparently- a fact for which I am grateful, as I am grateful I don't feel compelled to vote for capitalist Democrats.
Still, I think that it really is worth not looking too deeply into what they are saying because their point will be lost: they get to say who "we" are and what kinds of things "We" are sick of, and they don't feel bad about it because it's not univeral, so the cowardly hedging that they did means they aren't being hypocritical.
I personally don't care if folks are hypocrites though, because it makes for a pretty cool set of tea leaves to read about where folks minds are at.
I come here specifically because I try not to hang out with the kinds of sociopaths that wreak havoc on my world via badly implemented technology, but it's an easy place to check their general mental weather.
So, yeah, they aren't gonna agree, see the internal contraditions, understand the distance between lefitsts and performative DEI folks, etc.
But, happily for me, they will keep displaying their terrible opinions so I don't have to rebuild connections with real-life assholes just to keep my ear to the ground about what horrible new thing is coming to our world.
I thought the article was interesting and informative even though I won't recoil at use of the term. Getting upset at the authors opinion is just as useless as getting upset about the thing they complain about, but boy do these comments do the former.
This seems to be a characteristic of many high functioning people, especially successful engineers. There is a "correct" way of living your life, conducting your business, using your text editor, etc. It's helpful in that it ensures consistency and focus. The downside is that people become desensitised to nuance.
In this particular example, the word cargo in cargo cult is redundant. All cults have ridiculous ceremonies for cult members to engage in. These ceremonies come from human nature, our inability to distinguish correlation from causation. We're told to conduct a ceremony, get a good outcome, then believe it's the ceremonies that caused the outcome. Just call them ceremonies, because that's what they are.
However, when Feynman wrote his speech he must have thought that a cargo cult is a much more graphic metaphor than a dry lecture about stats and human biases.
Cargo cults are a specific kind of cult where the ceremonies come from imitating some other community. And complaints about cargo cult programming aren't only about people doing ineffective things, it's also about people seeing someone else doing something effectively but then not doing the work to understand why it's effective. It's a complaint about people being so close to being much more effective, but then snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Did you read the article? That is very much the pop sci definition of cargo cult that is incorrect.
The cargo cults were made by people who were enslaved and violently oppressed and then believed that cargo they were forced to create for their oppressors (e.g. flour, rice, tobacco, and other trade) should belong to them
> believed that cargo they were forced to create for their oppressors
I'm not sure that was in the article was it?
These were exotic goods brought from overseas.
I'm not trying to say there was no oppression, but the examples in which they believed the trade goods should belong to them were still about trade goods which arrived by boat.
"[The leader proclaimed] that the ancestors were coming back in the persons of the white people in the country and that all the things introduced by the white people and the ships that brought them belonged really to their ancestors and themselves."
(edit - certainly these goods may well have been produced through the oppression of other peoples elsewhere!)
Jessica Tallon's implementation of petnames and edge names was extremely simple within the paper davexunit linked, but used in-band mechanisms to communicate edge names that didn't require any sort of large trusted authority. You could retrieve them directly from fellow peers, who could publish their current set of edge names. This even works in a p2p context over ocapn, etc. The implementation was naive but it did work and used a publish-subscribe mechanism directly from other peers.
That said, edge names are only one way to share contacts. In fact "share contact" on peoples' phones is a great way to have contextual sharing: "Oh, let me introduce you to my friend Dave. Here's Dave's contact info!"
At any rate, petnames aren't a particular technology, they're a design space of "Secure UI/UX". However I do agree more research needs to be done in that space; we've only barely begun to scratch the surface.
The European Commission deserves thanks for funding the commons, a thing that rarely happens by governments, but should! NGI Zero was thanked though?
NLnet being the operator of the call is no small thing though, having been through the process they are very thoughtful, knowledgeable, thorough in how they run things. They even run the software they fund and verify it's working and check that the overall ideas are sensible, which is something I can't say of many other grant programs I've interacted with. So NLnet does deserve thanks.
Pre-Scheme is an incredible piece of history, largely forgotten and lost to time outside of a very small group that knew about it. Live hackable at the REPL, and yet with static type inference (Hindley-Milner!), compiles to C, no GC? It's something I've always wanted, and it existed, but it felt like one of those lost pieces of technology that was at risk of fading into the dustbin of history.
But no more! It's so exciting that Andrew Whatson has begun reviving the project with such great enthusiasm and making it so that Pre-Scheme can run on top of a variety of Schemes. And it's wonderful that NLnet has recognized how important this effort is. I think Pre-Scheme could play an interesting role alongside Zed and Rust, and indeed I know that Andrew plans to incorporate many of the newer ideas explored in those languages on top of Pre-Scheme eventually.
Go Pre-Scheme revival... I'm cheering it on, and can't wait to use this stuff myself!
Pre-Scheme is one more path to moving away from low level programming being done on top of directly programmed C for one thing, and the revival effort directly ties in by moving Pre-Scheme to be on top of r7rs, an open standard. This opens up Pre-Scheme to a variety of other ecosystems that NLnet already invests in, including Guix, Mes, and Guile, which have put a lot of efforts into secure and highly reproducible (and indeed bootstrappable) computing. There's definitely some ties in with security and security-oriented communities NLnet already funds, and this project directly works towards moving towards a more standardized approach, leading to hopefully broader adoption.
Well I'm "glad" it's a presentational issue rather than a performance issue then. Baba is You takes a similar approach in that holding undo takes a while, so we're not completely alone. :)
In our case the choice to have undo be very visible, well it may be a bit overdone, but I think it's partly because in some ways this is a showcase of Goblins' time travel feature, and so we wanted to add some juice to the effect to highlight it. It would definitely be better if we had a "level reset" feature, which would make us comparable to Baba is You: holding undo takes a bit if you did a lot of things, but you can also just start over.
The other thing I really wished we had added was a level select menu but... all this stuff was accomplished in a week and two days; game jams are intense, there's always things you wish you had gotten done. Now that the jam is over, it might be worth adding some quality of life improvements, but of course now that the jam is over we are back to working on the core tech again instead of the demo. :)
But also, hi jsnell, nice to see you again! Glad you got to play the game, and hope you had fun. :)
Also, I just tried opening with Chrome 125.0.6368.2 on Linux, and things ran fine... I wonder if this is a Chrome on Mac OS issue specifically. Would love to know what caused that, let us know if there's anything in the developer console. You can file issues here: https://gitlab.com/spritely/cirkoban
It sees everything you do, really? What's it gonna do with that data? You don't know.
Put all your customer data in there, all your customer relationships. It's fine, it couldn't leak all that information, it couldn't screw up any sensitive business details I'm sure. This is gonna go great.
Sorry AFK everybody I'm gonna go get myself a VibeMBA.
Anyway, good luck, I'm really looking forward to the user stories in a few weeks! I'm sure this won't go badly at all.
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