I think at the core this is a problem of abuse of the commons and parasitic and extractive behavior being tolerated as a norm.
How would I defend myself against hostile entities and societal norms that make it OK to steal from me and my effort without compensation? I will close my doors, put up walls, and distrust more often.
That's clearly the trend the world is going towards and I don't see that changing until we find some a way to make it cheaper to detect deception and parasitic behavior along with holding said entities accountable. Since our world leaders have had a history of unaccountable leadership and they are whom model this behavior, I have difficulty seeing the norms change without drastic worldwide leadership change.
Ah. Well, maybe we could improve the patent system instead? If most property is going digital, and we agree as a society that idea generators and executors deserve compensation for their effort, I think the answer would be better more evolved compensation systems and I agree stopping patents that are clearly a troll though would be better to be fucked.
is that still true in an age where intelligence is accessible via AI models and we can all file patents? (not saying we are there today, though maybe that may be a reality in 1-2 years)
Seems you have good intention at heart and clearly care about people, and from my observation have some emotional processing and clearing to do to avoid sounding like you are lashing out at whoever internet stranger could fit your mold of comfort to emotionally dump on.
Have you considered channeling that energy into advocacy or volunteerism? I feel you'd like that.
Now, I'm not gonna endorse the original position, but on some level it's also a non-troll. Enough time spent at a soup kitchen will turn just about anybody into Ron Paul. If you want someone to have realistic opinions on social welfare programs based on their actual impact in reality and not emotion and indoctrination then putting them into an organization that's actually trying to maximize good done for their budget and/or in contact with the recipients is a good way to do it.
In my experience the more time I spent volunteering the less of a libertarian I became. Structural problems require structural solutions, and the market can only solve some of them.
In any case, his reply didn't even address the main point and was very condescending. I respect the troll o7
Looking through your post history it seems you have a history of criticism and from my glance not much living experience of the things you proclaim to speak of.
The person I responded to was condescending himself and clearly was emotionally dumping on someone else. I don't condone non-consensual aggression, abuse, and emotional labor that inexperienced left-brained engineers seem to think is a healthy norm. no troll intent here, seriously just hoping to share some empathy and suggest "Go do some emotional processing and stop dumping that on internet strangers and expecting them to do your emotional work for you"
I don't have intent to troll and engage in any aggression, it's not my interest. You can check my post history to see I have a long history in this community of non-troll engagement.
You can say what you want though, and I will still say I don't consent to doing your emotional labor for you.
I was just suggesting an outlet for the clearly emotionally distressed person to vent their emotions.
Don't insult and look down upon me with your projections of superiority and over valuing the material logical left brain over the right necessary emotional & intuitive brain/embodied arts.
In my country, we do. For starters, we use apps for authentication and notifications. We can debate whether web push is viable, but most banking apps simply do not rely on it. As for older people, I would rather they use an app than a website because it is far too easy to fall victim to phishing attacks, no matter how much we educate them.
OK continuing to play Devil's advocate: In my country my mom fell to a sophisticated spear phishing attack and whilst on the phone with the scammer and he leveraged her app's login to make it easier and more convenient to attempt to send her money via Zelle.
I wonder if there's really evidence to support that the app's protect you from phishing attacks.
I personally think notifications suck and are spam and not needed, and that we could make something new and better we don't have that today though. What do you use the bank authentication for in your country if you don't mind my asking?
I’m not sure about the formal evidence, but to me it’s quite straightforward. I installed the official banking apps on my parents’ phones and told them to use only those apps for banking. Nothing else.
If they use a website, they might mistype the URL or click on a fake link. They don’t really use bookmarks either. Even if they manage to reach the correct site or add it to their home screen, they still have to log in again each time they use it. The app removes all of that—they just tap one icon. Passkeys may improve web security, but they still have a long way to go for non-technical users.
Notification sucks, but overall I’m still in favor of it until we have something better. I’ve had to replace my credit card a few times due to fraud cases, and the same happened to my parents. Because we get instant notifications for every transaction or authentication attempt, we know immediately if something suspicious happens. That’s not really possible with web push, especially since our banks don’t support it.
Authentication is much better in the app as well. In the past, banks would ask lots of personal questions over the phone, which I’m no longer comfortable answering unless I made the call myself. With the app, the account is tied to one device, and biometric login makes it easy and secure. Any approval happens inside the app, which feels safer.
App is definitely not perfect, but for the majority of people (non-tech), it's just a lot easier and (unfortunately) safer for them.
Thank you. I had typed a response and hit hacker news post limits. So will just post I read this, and got a better understanding of this from this back-and-forth. Thanks.
It's exhaust. Retrospectively, chat is essentially worthless. You're going to chase hallucinations down conversations that maybe didn't even impact code.
You tell the agent “go do thing A” the agent replies “sure thing buddy, I’ll do that”, noodles, then reports “I’ve done that thing!” MEANWHILE, in reality, the agent has done something totally different—maybe they did a subset, failed completely, made an unrelated change.
Later, you find and FIX the problem but the chat has no record of it because there is *genuinely no point* to telling an agent “you screwed that up,” unless you want that agent to fix it.
Now that session has a completely fictitious story which will seem to correspond with reality only because of out of band action. It’s worse than worthless!
Session chat has only a tenuous and poorly marked match to reality, there is no reason to preserve it.
I wish more people just honestly called out deception and liars like you do.
If we had a simple lookup community maintained system for this, would you use it? What do you think its design would need to be to be used, gain traction and be valuable?
Yes they have a great marketing team and a powerful astro turfing presence though, especially with the recent "Claude beat up OpenClaw! OpenAI is supporting the community by buying it!" and that nonsense.
Though tbh I hardly feel Claude is innocent either. When their safety engineer/leader left, I didn't see any statements from the Anthropic team not one addressing the legitimate points of his for why he left. Instead we got an eager over-push in the media cycle of "Anthropic standing up to DOD! Here's why you can trust us!"
It's all sounds too similar to propaganda and astroturfing to me.
I personally think, and with my personal experience being harassed and abused by the CIA, that the CIA and spy agencies (call them the pentagon or the rest of the government) is responsible for this.
On the other hand, those organizations are operating in the best interest of Americans and the world right?
Surely, those agencies aren't just a trick of the rich people? Right?
How would I defend myself against hostile entities and societal norms that make it OK to steal from me and my effort without compensation? I will close my doors, put up walls, and distrust more often.
That's clearly the trend the world is going towards and I don't see that changing until we find some a way to make it cheaper to detect deception and parasitic behavior along with holding said entities accountable. Since our world leaders have had a history of unaccountable leadership and they are whom model this behavior, I have difficulty seeing the norms change without drastic worldwide leadership change.
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