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> AI slop, Human slop - who cares if people are enjoying it.

Many people do care in fact.


But why should you make the distinction between slop that is created by a human or AI? Why should you care if something terrible was created by an AI or a human?

For the same reason some people like buying local, or buying hand-made, or buying "Made in <insert country>". People aren't robots, and we know the consequences of our actions are not limited to the current moment and on the current side of the black box we happen to be on as consumers. Further, even in cases of pure observation, where there is no monetary, verbal, implicit, or indirect support - e.g. just looking at a piece of art we didn't pay to see - we care about things that are not represented solely by the observable qualities of an object, especially when it comes to art and craft and the effort of people we admire.

This is obvious, though. This part of human nature will never change, and there is no argument that can confront it, and no reason to want to formulate one unless:

A. It makes you money.

B. It appears to have dividing lines that match a larger culture war in which you have emotional stock.


Would you watch a sports league that was entirely AI generated? It's purely entertainment, why care if the athletes are real?

Good riddance, De Gaulle was always right about americans, we might finally be able to get out and build our own stuff instead of being a bully's bitch forever. Given the current situation and trends I don't expect there will be anything good to expect from the US for a while.

Long term it probably even is better if the US just leave, especially if the next president is aligned with the current government, we might as well cut our losses early and restructure before they bully the rest of their allies.

Do you want the UE to send 200k troops half way to the other side of the world for a hot conflict with the first military power on their own doorstep ?

Because that would be 10 times stupid


When I asked gemini it got it right away and as a source it provided a link to your comment... what a time to be alive, I hope you got the Empire State buildings calculations right because you're now part of the Truth ™

https://imgur.com/a/NaTfvtS


The irony is that I feel like everyone here is just copping off of WolframAlpha, which for the past 15 years has featured the ability to display references of similar magnitude for any query you give. And in fact, typing in "500,000 tons" into WolframAlpha tells you specifically that this is 1.4x the mass of the Empire State Building (and also 0.8x to 1.4x the mass of an Ultra Large Crude Carrier oil supertanker, and also 0.11x the mass converted to energy by the sun in one second).

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=500%2C000+tons


It feels strange to be cited this quickly (by gemini) about something so silly. I used Empire State as an example cause I had just been listening to that song by Jay Z :D

> is it free of side effects for the nature?

What is free of side effects for "nature" ?


> flat terrain is just so much more practical.

Outside of peak summer it's much more optimal to have a south facing slope actually.


Additionally, solar panels can become too hot and that reduces their efficiency. Also, deserts are famously known for dust. Since it rarely rains, you get a dust buildup, further compromising solar efficiency in deserts.

I'm not saying that deserts are a bad place for solar. What I'm trying to say is - it's often worse than people think and it requires special infrastructure.


Still much better and lower impact than whatever the fuck we'd been doing for the past 200 years

Everybody exactly knows where to draw the line... No one gives a shit about car enthusiast forums, everyone is talking about infinite scroll x targeted content x advertising powered by algorithms exclusively designed to extract your time, money and attention.

This is not helpful. "everybody" and "everyone" and "no one" are meaningless catch alls. I understand where you are coming from but this is a very limited world view that does not add anything to the conversation. I am sure that where I draw the line is not where someone else will draw the line. We do not know "exactly" where to draw the line.

I'd argue even the darkest corners of 4chans aren't as bad as the average daily dose of brain rot delivered to hundreds of millions of people through infinite scroll algorithms on TikTok &co. And once you remove the sickening parts of 4chan I'd say it's overall a much more pleasant place than most other social medias, it's one of the last mainstream website that still somewhat feels like the golden age of internet

>I'd argue even the darkest corners of 4chans aren't as bad as the average daily dose of brain rot delivered to hundreds of millions of people through infinite scroll algorithms on TikTok

Then I'd argue you haven't actually been to the darkest corners of 4chan.


4chan is categorically bad. The combination of humor + racism/misogyny is like crack at brainwashing kids.

It isn't so black and white as people paint it to be. /g/ is probably the best place on the internet today to discuss technology even with occasional dumb jokes. The crassness of the site and reflexive reaction from you and others has turned out to be a great wall to prevent the corporate enshittification that affected the rest of the internet.

I’ll take harmless enshitification over genocidal racism

Harmless? The internet is dead. Genocidal racism? Not what I see on /g/.

The undertones are all over

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