If trump is no longer president and the military chooses to follow his orders anyway, we have a rouge military. The military that follows orders from the chain of command fights the rouge, and it at worst escalates to civil war.
That's pretty much why military is so rank and file and is trained to remain non-partisan in uniform. That scenario above is how we devolve the entire structure into fighting amongst one another. The military is under command of the Commander-in-Chief, not who they think is CiC.
>It's purported 'checks and balances' stripped naked. For the reality is this: the Constitution provides neither SCOTUS or Congress the ability to enforce their constitutional authorities. The Executive has sole control over the police power and military power.
If we got to a point where Trump was convicted and he then refused to step down, then yes. I'd say your interpretation is correct.
But we're not there yet. Legislature refuses to impeach (let alone convict), and the judicial branch doesn't have any direct power over the executive branch. The idea is that the judicial defines lines (which includes what the executive branch can do with police and military power. Remember that deplpoying troops in a state that does not wish it is very rare behavior), and lines stepped over comes back to the legislature to punish. So we reach the same impasse.
>But where is the army or police who shoot it out with Trump's FBI and military so they can walk Trump out of the West Wing in handcuffs?
He's no longer commander-in-chief, so an army following orders would act on orders of either the vice president turned president (VP->P) or some high standing generals to arrest trump. And this VP->P cannot simply relinquish his power to the convicted president if the VP->P is sympathetic.
If that falls apart, we are indeed in a true constitutional crisis. And likely civil war. That's why military is very strictly training to be non-partisan in uniform. And why they have stricter laws (e.g. court marshal) than a citizen.A military betraying its governments' will is textbook civil war material.
If congress can't act quick and hold him accountable, there may not be a long time to come.
>Whatever comes out of these years that lasts will probably be because of SCOTUS more than Trump.
We're still feeling aftereffects of actions from Reagan. History assures you that you don't need everything to be de jure to fundamentally shift the Overton curtain. Especially in regards to the economy.
>Things look bad if you have a twenty year time horizon
50 year horizon, US erupted into a Civil War. Gotta expand out a bit, but maybe the republicans of 1800 had a point (who we'd call liberal today, but history has a strange way with language).
And yes, Trump has already done decades of damage to the US's soft power. countries are now trying to slowly cut out the middleman of the US and even pulling out of the dollar. the 20 year horizon here is awful.
They couldn't bring a single man back and sweep all this under the rug. Trump has to get the last word in. Remember beforehand that they were trying to bribe him to self-deport to a country he wasn't even born in.
This really isn't up for debate. the admin has most certainly ignored court orders.
>Every American, even the president, even (gasp) Donald Trump, has the right of appeal of judicial orders and rulings.
If I even talked the way Blanche and Bondi did in these hearings, I'd instantly be held in contempt and be thrown in jail. let alone the overreach of order applied. Let's not pretend that we are on an equal playing ground here.
>Inferior court judges
I think this phrasing alone says a lot more about you than anything you typed. I bet over Biden you were ranting about how the Supreme Court is corrupt. Just shifting in the sands based on what "your team" is doing, laws be damned.
> I think this phrasing alone says a lot more about you than anything you typed.
I'm not sure it says anything about them: "inferior court" is the term of art for any court whose decisions can be appealed to a higher court [1]. It's not a derogatory term; 'inferior' is just the Latin for 'lower'.
Very true. The trials against these people better be brutal (assuming they don't all run to Argentina).
It's frustrating now, but having all these cases and cases over ignoring orders is a very important paper trail if we want to civilly resolve all of this. The new DoJ can certainly go after the old one and they have a disgusting amount of cases to comb through to make their case. And a frankly incompetent opposition (it's okay, about 2/3rds of the DOJ quit as of now, I imagine many of the sensible/talented ones realized the incompetence).
Well yes. It's easy to manipulate when you freeze the House for 100 years. That's the biggest reason we keep swinging so much. The House became a mini-senate, and the Senate structure is already something under contention (designed from the beginning to compromise with smaller population states). Now we have a Senate that can change every 2 years. 2 years is simply a bad golf swing for billionaires when they "lose". 2 years of suffering feels eternal for the working class
The Legislature has the most power and the House freeze made it easy to co-opt. you make the house compliant or essentially useless, and you can't impeach anything in the executive nor judicial branches. Freeze the house and you can't really start any legislature to have laws catch up with rampant greed. Or make it easier to lobby into more greed.
We desperately need to expand the house again. I remember saying we should have over 1000 reps with current growth. Maybe starting at 700-800 would be a good start.
That's pretty much why military is so rank and file and is trained to remain non-partisan in uniform. That scenario above is how we devolve the entire structure into fighting amongst one another. The military is under command of the Commander-in-Chief, not who they think is CiC.
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