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You might get a kick out of Matrix if you haven't tried it yet. https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy is probably still the best way to get it and the bridges you need setup. It is far from perfect but decent.

Whitelisting law enforcement so when the owner of the air tag declares it stolen nobody other than a whitelisted law enforcement org could view its location and when they did that creates an audit log?

^ exactly.

And since the user has the original key, it'd have to be voluntary surrender. After you turn your key in, you lose access.

The best part is the whole thing could be reviewable and added to a public immutable ledger, encrypted, to make the whole process, transition, and access transparent for courts later. Wouldn't it be great if more investigations happened that way?

And if you don't trust law enforcement, thats your prerogative, no need to use the feature.


What happens when law enforcement members are the stalkers?

This implies a level of trust in law enforcement. As a US citizen, hard pass.

They have access to guns, stingrays and flock cameras. They tap every email, message and phone call you make. You wouldn't even know if you are subject to warrantless surveillance as it might be illegal to tell you under the patriot act.

I'm pretty sure being able to access an Airtag that was put into stolen mode by the owner is the least of your concern. I'm not even sure what failure mode you are worried about because you didn't elaborate.

Please don't think I'm trying to be all high and mighty because I live in the UK and am surveilled even worse than you are (although at least our police are very rarely armed).


I concur, but you don't have to use that feature if you don't trust LE.

Wouldn't even be hard for Apple to implement, they already do this for airlines.

Sure and lots of times I can walk places. That doesn't mean bikes, cars, trains and planes aren't incredibly useful. They let me achieve things I can't in other ways for example transporting cargo without a team of people to help me. Just like AI coding.

Yet replacing walking with cars is often cited as one of the reasons for many of society's ills.

Yet no one seriously declares motor vehicles as useless.

Many who live in sufficiently-walkable areas don't have one and are actively opposed to getting one

There is a middle road.

America went full car to a point where just going to the shops from the suburbs is a car drive. Crossing the ROAD needs a car in way too many places.

There are cities where you can find a shop for essentials within walking distance, bigger shops need a short to medium drive, but can be still walked to if you really want to.


Would you still use your car if you ended up in the wrong destination half the time?

Yes, because I can drive to the other end of the state in an afternoon. Then if I get lost, I can just course correct.

Generating lots of pollution, cost, jams, noise and accidents globally. Not all cities need to be made for cars, right tool for the job etc.

Have fun getting stuck in a loop when it insists your destination exists in a place it doesn't.

Would you use your car if you ended up in the right destination 100% - epsilon of the time? Yes, you would.

Or do you suppose this is the best AI will ever get?


Parent wasn't referring to a possible future, but present time. If we get AI I can trust 100% that's another discussion. For now I don't see it and I don't think LLMs are the solution to that problem, but we'll see.

Maybe your analogy holds if driving and walking took the same amount of time.

Plus "planning, implementing, validating, and reviewing" would be a bit like walking anyway in your analogy.


Sadly if you look at how the law is drafted its setup to catch companies that have a significant UK base not just those that advertise here. It is highly likely for compliance reasons (as we saw with imgur and others) that they will simply block the UK themselves.

There are already solutions that do the double VPN thing for you. For example https://obscura.net

> For example https://obscura.net

Obscura ....

"Terms and the relationship between you and Obscura shall be governed by the laws of the State of New York"

Yeah, erm.

Now more than ever, trusting a US jurisdiction VPN provider ? No thanks !


> Now more than ever, trusting a US jurisdiction VPN provider ? No thanks !

The whole point of Obscura is you aren't trusting any single company. A Swedish company and an American company would need to collude to cause a problem. Unless you know something I don't?


> The whole point of Obscura is you aren't trusting any single company.

First, Mullvad's infrastructure has been independently audited.

Mullvad integrity has also tested as proven by a legal case where they were subject to a search warrant when someone was trying to claim copyright infringement.

As far as I can tell, Obscura has not had anywhere near the same scrutiny.

Second, obscura is the first hop is it not ?

Therefore it may well "only" relay the traffic to the exit node but it is still a relay and hence open to SIGINT analysis by the US.

I would have thought therefore using Mullvad's built-in multi-hop mode on their audited platform would be the wiser decision ?

Or Tor if you insist on multi-party ?


Hence why Mullvad is being used as the exit point.

You have full e2ee between yourself and Mullvad but crucially Mullvad don't know who your IP. Five eyes are already doing SIGINT on behalf of both the US and the UK government before my connection even reaches Obscura so I lose nothing but potentially gain privacy.

How is it you think a single company (Mullvad) having access to my IP and what I am browsing is less secure than splitting it up amongst multiple providers one of which being Mullvad with that audited platform you talk about?

If I wanted Tor on top I'd layer it on top too but that would still be a single point of failure.


I see you are carefully skipping around the point ....

Where is Obscura's independent audit ? When has Obscura been tested to the same extent that Mullvad was during its court batttle ?

Answer it wasn't.

Therefore Mulvad Multi-Hop mode. Or Mullvad + Tor, if you insist. Is the safer choice.

And the US juristiction of Obscura is not something you can brush under the carpet like it somehow doesn't matter.

With Obscura you are just throwing your first-hop traffic against an unknown. And an unknown that is under US jurisdiction, and hence PATRIOT Act etc.


It's open source which means I can trust having the app installed if I build from source (or I can just use Wireguard directly). I then know I'm directly connected to a Mullvad Wireguard node by checking the public key here: https://mullvad.net/en/servers

Other than Wireguard protocol being broken there is no way for Obscura to snoop presuming I check the public key. I'm not saying I trust Obscura, I'm saying with their model I don't need to trust them which is vastly superior. Nor do I need to trust Mullvad.

You keep hand waving around that Obscura are somehow untrustworthy but you have steadfastly refused to address the fact that their model does not require trust. If you trust Mullvad (which you are claiming to) please show an attack that would work to breach this model. You can't.

You would benefit from reading their FAQs and this blog post: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/

https://github.com/Sovereign-Engineering/obscuravpn-client


Check out Flutter as another option, can target web, android, ios and desktop.


Which makes the prediction market more accurate.


Until the tail starts wagging the dog.


As long as we realize that prediction market accuracy is not all we care about.

See also: one can have very high economic efficiency with very high inequality, war, disease, misery, etc.


Eh… sort of? In a sense, they become less accurate, because the prediction market is the causative event, not an independent observer.


Not really, for the same reason entrapment isn't usually seen as an accurate way to gather information for law enforcement. See also Goodhart's law and overfitting.


"You provide the gambling, I'll provide the war"


How does this compare to something like Tart and shapehq/tartelet


Both use Apple's Virtualization Framework, so core VM performance is similar. Main differences are around agent-first design (HTTP API, MCP server), unattended setup via VNC + OCR, and registry support for VM images.

We've also built a broader ecosystem on top - the Cua computer and agent framework for building computer-use agents: https://cua.ai/docs

We went through the comparison with Tart, Lima etc here: https://github.com/trycua/cua/issues/10


Thanks for answering, makes sense.

Not seeing any reference to Tart at that link. Tart also has registry support for VM images it treats them very much like Docker images, is that what you are doing too?

Is it worth putting a comparison up somewhere other than a Github thread? Seems to be a frequently asked question at this point.

Also worth drawing attention to Tart being source available not open source.


Thanks for the feedback! You're right that a proper comparison page beats hunting through GitHub issues.

We just put one together (with some help from Claude Code, naturally): https://cua.ai/docs/lume/guide/getting-started/comparison


Thanks much appreciated, the "Registry Support" section is weird though. Isn't GHCR an instance of an OCI registry? The when to choose Loom in the Tart section should also mention licensing, it is relevant at the choosing point.


Good catches, thanks! Just updated the page:

Fixed the registry description—you're right, GHCR is an OCI registry. Both tools use OCI-compatible registries, we just default to GHCR/GCS.

Added licensing to the "when to choose" sections.


Good changes, like the new theme too, I'd still match the two boxes if it were me (both should read OCI registry and optionally include GHCR but they should be identical)


> Lume automates the macOS Setup Assistant via VNC and OCR, creating ready-to-use VMs without manual clicking. Tart relies on Packer plugins for automation.

This feels disingenuous. Tart has unattended setup support as well, and it's based on the same VNC + OCR technique as Lume. In fact Tart had it first, and your approach seems to be heavily inspired by it. In addition the boot command instructions you're using came from https://github.com/cirruslabs/macos-image-templates/

The only material difference is whether it's built-in or integrated via Packer.


Fair point - both use VNC for unattended setup. The difference is implementation: Tart does it via a Packer plugin (Go), we built it natively in Swift with a customizable YAML schema that's less error-prone. User-facing difference is --unattended flag vs Packer workflow.


When we talk static HTML I think that still includes images, stylesheets and potentially even very basic javascript (e.g. setting classes). Those take advantage of CDNs; Cloudflare have an extensive CDN with decent latency / locations. They also are a DNS registrar and a lot of people use them for their local DNS provider so again latency benefits. That's before we talk about the DDoS protection, injecting stuff like metrics etc etc. I don't want to sound like a Cloudflare rep here but I can see where this user is coming from.


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