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Last thing I want from an AI is to reason like humans. My one of the biggest expectation from AI is to decrease dependence on human reasoning.


This is the biggest issue with developing countries. Nobody really understand how important chronic diseases and a good diet is. In terms of this for majority of its population US is also just like an ordinary developing country. Very similar to Saudi Arabia. Majority of vegetables are also not very innocent. Maybe not comparable to processed junk food with tons of sugar but there is almost no developed country with high vegetable intake yet Vegetables are advertised as healthy and people in developing countries fall victim to it. Fortunately our body is very versatile but i don't think a sensitive organ like brain can keep its ideal condition over time.


By the relative weakness do you just mean price drop? And how can SPY be hedge considering bitcoins incomparable volatility. Are position sizes proportional to volatility or something like that?


The US market opens at 6:30 AM PST. In the 30 minutes before the market open, BTC and the SPY/QQQ futures tend to be highly correlated, but let's say NQ (which is a futures contract that tracks the Nasdaq) rises .5% but BTC only rises .25%, then this would be relative weakness on the part of BTC. The trade would be to short BTC and go long QQQ in equal size.


I am not here to defend twitter block however considering topic filled with political comments i want to fix some misunderstanding. Twitter is used as alternative channel yet critical for organization of volunteers . They say their operation hit by 70%. However people first ask help from official channel than seek alternatives arriving twitter as first option. Saying that people asking help under rubble from twitter is straight out political comment. Block happened like 65+ hours after earthquake. 95%+ of rescue operation runs over official channel. At this point is not that important anymore but I have never seen single tweet that points out you should shut down your phone in area so people under rubble have better change of reception. Which is insane. Volunteers going there complaining phone/internet not working properly not aware they are potentially blocking people under rubble from access to phone yet complaining about twitter ban. I am not defending block nor underestimating damage to volunteer organization (about distribution of help) just attempting to balance against political comments. By the way twitter block is lifted again.


Chronic inflammation is also result of many other health problem. Depression is ultimately a natural process. It is known that depression caused by health issues probably big portion of cases. Nothing new. I realized that bluntly interfering with a mechanism built-in in our body is ridicules. People should be focusing in root causes. However i doubt that SSRIs really interfere with depression anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDPV1XOIPY I think what happens is SSRIs make recovery faster for people who are at the stage of recovery by giving false hope. There are ones that really interfere with depression and result is drastically increased mortality. Which is really what should happen if you surpress a natural mechanism solely exists to increase survival.


Most SSRI doesn't do much. The ones that work seems like related to dopamine metabolism. SSRI aspect is already debunked. Fluoxetine for example works and i think additionally confirmed by dramatically increased mortality since depression should decrease mortality which is why it exists.


Coinbase has crazy R&D spending like more than one billion Dollar in last year. Robinhood is also very similar. On the other hand Tesla only had 3 billion Dollar in last year. Really mind-boggling.


In reality this is just a fantasy. It is not possible for a healthy human to really care about survival of human race in case of something catastrophic happening and wiping out humanity.


Why?

Healthy people care about having descendants they'll never meet.


Survival of human race is very different then caring about descendants. Yet as you are live witnessing right now some people barely care about that and most people do not even think about it. If earth to be wiped out by a meteor and there was a ship with limited space to colonize another planet people would fight for that space even if it would mean decreasing success chance of mission.


People have other reasons of going. You don't colonize during the asteroid event, you colonize long before. You won't have people fighting to go to save themselves, you'll have them wanting to go for various reasons, legacy, reputation, isolation, etc.

That being said, I don't agree with your premise that you can't be a healthy person and care about the human race. You haven't added enough to support that claim.


It was an example to point out that people may behave vicious to increase survival chance of their children or themself even if conflicts with survival chance of human race in total.


Because you don't, and you can't imagine you're not an exemplar of health?


Because i am very objective person and this is just hard fact. It may be healthy to think that way but just not the reality.


In past USDT depeg to around 0.9$ for short time. This is very unlikely to be the case since even if they are insolvent they have a reserve. You probably think that way because of LUNA crash which was backed by almost nothing. For example in defi stablecoins with issues do not depeg to zero or anywhere close to zero if they are still backed to some extent.


Our opinions differ in that you trust Tether's reserve. I don't.

It has been more than 5 years since they were audited. By their own admission, they have 10 billion of their 66 billion dollars in unsecured loans and "other investments".

An org whose entire raison d' etre is to hold money should be pretty open to outside audits. It should actually be a pretty easy audit.

Why have they been foot-dragging so long?


I didn't said i trust Tether's reserves. However even if with a hole they have a reserve at the end.


By looking at what happened in earth judging it is a normal likelihood for a cell to form within billion year and evolve to us within 4 billion years, is nuts. Scientists thinks this way because they have no idea about what statistical possibility of this to happen in such time. What happened and happening in Earth even if not a miracle to one then it is result of a luck statistically impossible to find anywhere in cosmos. It is worth to mention that all living beings in earth are descendants of same cell. Even in earth there is no sign of multiple different cell formation which shows how lucky we were.


You’re confusing the odds of a specific lottery ticket hitting the jackpot with any ticket winning. Someone will win fairly regularly.

So yea, the odds of life evolving to something genetically compatible with humanity when we did might be tiny, but we aren’t the only possible form of intelligent multicellular tool using life and it could have happened +/- a few billion years. Given earth starting 5 billion years ago the odds of some intelligent civilization eventually showing up might actually be fairly high, we just don’t have enough data to know.


I think you totally missed my point. I am literally saying there are Aliens only if GOD created them and it seems like there aren't. Even though i tried to be very indirect for obvious reasons. I think it was clear enough.


Sure, that belief isn’t backed up by existing evidence but it’s hardly worth rehashing again.

Anyway something more interesting you said was the belief that all life came from a single cell. It’s unclear if all life ever to exist on earth had cells or if they evolved later. Also, we can’t tell if life showed up independently fairly frequently but was out competed or just once.

This is somewhat dependent on how life is defined. Prions replicate, but aren’t generally considered alive, yet being fairly simple they should have shown up quite frequently due to random chance. The more complex self replicating matter must be to be considered alive the higher the hurdle for life to have formed randomly but the more likely for simpler self replicating matter to evolve into life. Yet, saying evolution of non living mater results in life seems to twist the meaning around unpleasantly.

PS: Perhaps we should have a new definition between dead matter and living matter which is self catalyzing in the right environment. With viruses or prions siting at the complex side and crystals at the simple end.


Just once for the initial self-replicators would be my guess.

Not in a cell, but in porous rock around the hydrothermal vents (at the bottom of the ocean).

Given the exponentialish 'population' growth of chemical soup, coupled with the fact that the very low likelyhood of a localised self-replicator forming, by the time second place came about the game would already be over.

Far more likely is preserved 'mutations' to chemical replicators leading to divergent forms of demi-life.


> by the time second place came about the game would already be over.

That’s presumably true, but it means there could have been a very large number of losers not just 1. Aka if extremely primitive life showed up once on earth then it might be a rare event, if it happened 100 trillion times then most planets with the right conditions will have some form of life.


It'll be a Poisson distribution.

If the spread is too wide then the chance of spatiotemporally cohabiting civilizations of distinct origins will be diminishingly small.

But I don't actually think that the planetary parameters that allow for replication are (in any way) specific to earth.


Even if it doesn't define life obviously replication is the thing here. Without capability of replication there is no continuation and even if some matter is alive it has limited time to obtain this ability. Which is actually seems like slightly more possible than impossible to me. Not saying straightforward impossible just because we exist.


Any non infinitessimal probability leads to certainty given enough time.

Consider it in terms of reactions per second - take the likelyhood of non-formation of replicators (call it 99.999999999% - because it actually does not matter), to the power of the number of reactors, to the power of the number of seconds since the universe began.

The likelyhood that no self-replicators form rapidly plummets to a vanishing value.


By that standard there hasn't been much time.


I may have added too many nines, but the point stands.


Do we really need to bring the invisible sky-wizard into this?

Also, the fact that you think a being of unfathomable complexity can just be, but everything else needs a source is rather silly.

(The other possibility being infinite regression, which is equally silly.)


Not who you responded to, but I thought you described your case elegantly neutral to the God question. I suspected you were coming from that perspective, but your argument stood on its own.

Now that said, if we did find alien life, how would your feelings about God change?


I don't base existence of GOD on this. Simply GOD is only thing that does not need anything to be based on so it is possible to explain existence. I was trying to point that evolution is statistically close to impossible (from my understanding) and GOD made it possible. Thus aliens are unlikely. And it seems like there is no sign of aliens in holly books. If there was aliens and it was conflicting with holly books then it would mean that holly books i believe are fake however i am not saying that existence of Aliens would conflict with Holly books either (I am not sure about that). The explanation of this existence to you is what GOD means to you. And you need to define some element to explain this existence. And what would you define eventually means GOD to you.


Every book, holy or otherwise, that was ever written was written by humans. What makes you think they are “real” in the first place?

There’s no mention of a ton of very significant things we now know to be real in any holy book. Why isn’t that stuff enough “proof” they’re “fake”?


I don't believe you have read your "holly" books. There are plenty of alien beings described in detail in that book.

I also reject your out-of-hand assertion that whatever one thinks about the world's existence has the same meaning to someone as your mythical being has to you.

How blown would your mind be if I posited to you that what you call "GOD" is the universe? Your holly book says he is everywhere and everything all at once, does it not? That "He is within all of us", and yet we are the universe observing itself. He came about out of nowhere with no trace of origin? We don't know what caused the big bang, it just happened.

If aliens exist, it's because the universe "allowed" it to happen (aka the statistical probability is high enough for it to occur or we would not be alive having this conversation) not some conscious divine being.


Which logically means your definition of GOD would include a non sentient physical processes that lacks a free will etc. At that point why label it GOD rather than say space time or whatever?


Existence of universe has nothing to do with something about universe. Or at leas not have to. You cannot explain existence of space time with space time


Why not? If GOD has always existed why can’t space and time?


That is the thing if you are talking about space-time it didn't existed before the Big Bang.


That’s one model, but we really don’t know what happened before the Big Bang.

Still labeling pre Big Bang as SpaceTimeTime or calling that Space Time and relabeling what we experience as local space time doesn’t really matter here. The point is our Big Bang could be happening infinite times in a multiverse without beginning or end. That’s one possibility where there isn’t anything conscious to point to as a GOD just the same kind of things which make up physical reality.


OK, let's look at earth's oceanic heat vents.

A chemical soup and enough porous rocks down at the bottom of the ocean to operate as reactors powering endothermic reactions.

These are spread across the entire surface of the earth.

If, by chance, some set of reactions occur forming molecules (or groups of molecules) that catalyse their own formation, then you have constrained self-replication.

Once you have this - and you only need it once, there's an exponential (s-curve really) boom in the prevalence of the chemicals in question.

Any changes to these molecules that preserve the self-replicating nature of the soup will be preserved to an extent and those changes that improve self-replication will not only be preserved but will begin to outpace the parents.

If, for example, I stick a little hydrogen on the front of a structure it'll develop the ability to trace along ion lines.

A chemical soup that hunts its own food.

Of course, these mutations can lead to divergence - which eventually leads to a pseudo-competition.

Step by step, piece by piece, complexity builds up.

Structures integrate and develop the ability to funnel 'food' to where it needs to go for transformation.

And if it is possible for this to happen, then given enough time and enough distinct reactors, it is not simply possible - it is absolutely inevitable.


I'd note that nothing in this statement is particularly compelling one way or the other. Sure, things are inevitable given enough space and enough time. But we had a finite amount of space and a finite amount of time. Both were pretty big numbers. But do we have evidence to say that the timelines of life on Earth were inevitable? Probably not. Maybe, but I would guess no.


Yet all living beings in earth are descendants of same cell, as far as we know. So if the above can happen once -- even if only "needs" to happen once, why would it not occur more than once, and lead to different "lines" of life, so to speak?


I suspect that the less evolved and less efficient replicators would not fare well against older and more robust forms - especially once those forms develop the ability to hunt and direct their food.

Basically, in an emergent adversarial environment running late to the party gets you eaten.


I don't know much but i think you are jumping too much. I don't think it is possible for a self-catalysing molecule to achieve enough complexity to begin with. When you jump to structure obviously it becomes pretty much irrelevent.


self-replicating*


> It is worth to mention that all living beings in earth are descendants of same cell. Even in earth there is no sign of multiple different cell formation which shows how lucky we were.

I don't see why this has to be the case. If unlikely conditions are correct for something unlikely to occur, then it's not longer unlikely to occur multiple times.

E.g. if you play around with chemical reactions and you hit the right conditions, it usually happens all over the place, and not just one molecule combining.


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